Yo La Tengo is one
of my favourite bands of all time. I love the way they combine psychedelic drones,
squalls, pretty melodies and doo wop backing vocals. The latest record
Summer Sun is uncompromisingly mellow – the tracks melting together into
one long mood piece. Some think of it as musical wallpaper but if that’s the
case then YLT is the most exotic wallpaper I’ve ever heard. In the last year
they’ve also released a magnificent EP Nuclear War plus two more discs
available on the band’s own Egon label – the marine biology instrumental cinemascape
The Sounds of the Sounds of Science and the seasonal Merry Christmas
From… single. The Hoboken, New Jersey trio consists of husband/ wife team
guitarist Ira Kaplan and drummer Georgia Hubley and relationship gooseberry
bassist James McNew. As a line-up it’s not a bad premise for a sit-com.
There are three members in the
band and Ira and Georgia are partners. Do you ever feel like a spare cake at
a wedding?
I have no idea what you just said but I think I know what you mean. What was
that expression ‘a spare cake at a wedding?’ No, not really. We’re really good
friends and known each other for a really long time now. It certainly makes
organisation a lot easier. I also get my own room and that’s good.
What happens when there’s a band
argument and you’re casting the deciding vote – do you feel the pressure?
It’s rare that that happens. Communication is very open and that’s important.
One
of the inspired things you’ve released recently is the cover of Sun Ra’s ‘Nuclear
War’ that includes the accompaniment of children singing in a Sesame Street
style ‘it’s a motherfucker/don’t you know’. Can you tell us about how that session
was conducted?
Ira came up with the idea and I didn’t know if anybody would go along with it.
But once a few friends started committing their kids to the project I was ready
to go. I can’t remember the exact date of recording but it was a holiday and
so all these kids were off from school. It took a little bit of persuading and
stating our case. It wasn’t so much our friends who were the focus of concern
but it was more our friend’s parents and how they would respond with hearing
their grandchildren doing something like this because the parents seemed pretty
interested in it. The kids had a really good time and I’m sure not all of them
really knew what was going on. But it was insane, incredible fun. It was fifteen
kids crammed in the control room in a recording studio and us cueing them as
to when to sing along with the track. I can’t say I’ve ever done anything like
that before – it was incredible.
It’s a protest song that’s come
out in very conservative times – what’s been the reaction to the song?
It’s been pretty great. We played it in Paris a couple of nights ago and it
was very well received there which I took as a tremendous compliment. It’s nice
that we can go to Paris, or Germany or anywhere really as Americans and have
the French or Germans realise that not all Americans are in line with what America
is doing these days. It’s heartening that people are very understanding of that.
What
about at home in the United States?
I would say it’s also very good. The kind of people who come to see our band
for the most part are people who didn’t vote for this administration in the
first place and certainly don’t support it’s efforts now. It’s difficult – it’s
a weird, uncomfortable time.
The reason I ask is because here
we’re not getting too many news reports from America of people protesting or
having a different view.
God, I haven’t been around in the last few months but before the war in Iraq
began there was tremendous opposition to it. There were marches of millions
of people in New York, Los Angeles, Washington and Chicago and all over the
whole country. I just don’t know what to believe anymore. Every report on the
marches gave a lower and lower amount of people who were actually at them. I
don’t know where to get my information anymore. I’ll just stay with the Simpsons
I guess – I’ll get all my news from that show.
So
what about your stance about Israel and Palestine?
Oh, I don’t know. (Long pause) I’d be happy if people could just talk to each
other. I’m in favour of that.
Are the lines, for you, a little
more blurred in that particular conflict?
Yeah, you know, I’m not really sure how much accurate coverage we get of that
either. There’s a lot of partisan delivery of different stories and that’s another
really horrible situation. It just makes me really sad to think about it.
With releasing a record like ‘Nuclear
War’ in the current conservative climate I’m sure you’re getting a lot of questions
along these lines?
Yes, it’s odd. It’s odd for entertainers to field political questions.
Back in 1996 you did a Coca-Cola
ad. The story goes they approached you for a particular song but you refused
to license that and did a special one off piece.
That’s true. They wanted a song from the May I Sing With Me record that
we made in 1992 and we weren’t willing to give that up so we volunteered to
write something for them which they shockingly agreed to.
So they wanted ‘Mushroom Cloud
of Hiss’ did they?
(Laughs) I wish. I think that song really sums up the refreshing quality of
their product. And they really wanted all eleven minutes of it. It really would’ve
been unprecedented. That would’ve been nice. I think I would’ve given them that.
If they wanted to run the eleven minute ad in its entirety we could’ve been
swayed.
So which track did they ask for?
‘Detouring America with Horns’ and we said no.
It’s
interesting that you didn’t want to give up the song but you still did music
for Coke anyway.
I don’t really believe in it. To me it just ruins songs but that’s just my personal
opinion. I mean in one way TV ads are like the AM radio of now and anybody can
have a hit song on a commercial now it seems like. You certainly can’t have
a hit song on the radio but if a crazy guy at an advertising agency wants to
license your song for a car commercial then all of a sudden 50 billion people
will have the chance to listen to it. For example right now in the States 50
billion people can hear the first twenty seconds of ‘Heroin’ by the Velvet Underground
in a Nissan commercial so go figure. To me that’s awful, there’s something really
horrible about that. This amazing, completely, wilfully uncommercial record
and this absolutely life changing band and moment of music is now selling some
stupid car. To me that ruins the spirit of what it is and what it means. It
makes you think it doesn’t mean as much to the people who did it as the people
who love it and listen to it. But then again I think if Moe Tucker gets money
from it I don’t feel too bad about that either. So I don’t know it’s complicated.
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